High amp draw and slow speed up for Antal 66 winch

[tessahartmut]

Thank you, just order the brushes on Amazon and will replace.

[SV True North]

Ive had the slow start before running normal and high current draw problems on two of my Antal winches, both W52 secondaries.  In both cases it was bad brushes.  The first set of brushes were purchased as Antal spares for ridiculous price. The second set were Bosch 1 007 014 100 Carbon brush, starter which were purchased from Amazon for about $10.00.  Replacing the brushes fixed the problem on both winches immediately.  The Bosch brushes are exactly the same as the overpriced Antal spares.

John Tyerman
SV True North
Hylas 54 #42

[SV True North]

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[Ripple]

The relay for our port winch is accessed by removing the ceiling panel in the aft shower area.
Jim 46-53

[tessahartmut]

Hylas 46 2010 #69: we are starting to see the same problem with our port primary winch. I talked to a Antal representative and he said it could be bad contacts or the brushes. Does anyone know how to get access to the motor and the relay box. I am guessing you have to remove the ceiling panel in the shower. We will I find the relay box and how difficult will it be to remove the motor, replace brushes and re-install? Any help is appreciated.

[tessahartmut]

Hylas 46 2010 #69: we are starting to see the same problem with our port primary winch. I talked to a Antal representative and he said it could be bad contacts or the brushes. Does anyone know how to get access to the motor and the relay box. I am guessing you have to remove the ceiling panel in the shower. We will I find the relay box and how difficult will it be to remove the motor, replace brushes and re-install? Any help is appreciated.

[Four Winds]

Dave my motor over-current condition turned out to be the motor brush assembly, not just the brushes!! I removed the motor and had a local Rhode Island company (Ace Armature) replace the brushes, bearings and brush holder assembly.


if your interested in a replacement motor drop Siebe an email address below.
 siebe@euromarinetrading.com

Best of luck
Mike M

[Dave Brennan]

Following up from a while back as I never solved this problem and it didn't appear to be the relay contacts. If I bypassed the relay (direct cable) the problem was still there. It seems like there's either something bad with the brushes (or is this brushless?) or with the windings. Is the best bet to contact Antal and/or look for a replacement motor?

[Dave Brennan]

I cleaned the relay contacts but it didn’t help. I wonder if the motor is shot? I’m in New Zealand now and would appreciate any contacts to source a new one.

[Four Winds]

Hi Dave just curious if discovered the root cause of your W66 winch issue. I recently experienced the same symtons with my W66 and it turned out to be a worn brush assembly..

Regards,
Mike M

[Ripple]

Our relays are separate from the winch, accessed from a ceiling panel near the winch. As I recall, it is a black plastic box roughly 2X2x4 inches.  It is somewhat awkward to gain access to due to space limitations but easy to open and repair once it is in your hands. As I recall, the contacts could be rotated to provide fresh contact points, but don't hold me to that. JR

[Dave Brennan]

Is the realy separate from the winch motor assemble - meaning the switches are wired to the realys which have the high amperage cables?

[Ripple]

This happened to us also. I disassembled the relay and cleaned up the contacts. It fixed our problem. JR

[Dave Brennan]

We have dual Antal 66 primary winches on our H54. One seems to work normally and draws about 50 amps running. The other starts slowly then speeds up to normal in about 15 seconds, but draws over 100 amps. This happens whether or not the winch is engaged to the motor. Does this indicate windings going bad, an issue with the gear box, or something else entirely? Is this fixable without replacing the winch motor?