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stgermain45

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Re: Rudder Installation Hylas 46
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2021, 02:30:18 AM »
Last couple pics...Step 9 didn't apply to us on our H46.

Hope this helps!
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stgermain45

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Re: Rudder Installation Hylas 46
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2021, 02:29:07 AM »
More photos attached...

stgermain45

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Re: Rudder Installation Hylas 46
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2021, 02:27:03 AM »
Attached are pics from Queen Long when we dropped and reinstalled ours. Can't comment on variations. We are hull #44. Best advice would be to email Queen Long and inquire with them with your hull number. They are extremely helpful with these types of inquiries.

10 photos in all. Limited to 4 per post so I'll send the rest in a new post....

Chris
SV Beleza, H46 #44

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Re: Rudder Installation Hylas 46
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2021, 01:54:24 PM »
We have 46-53 and the upper bearing Assembly looks slightly different from your pictures e.g. our set screws are on the vertical sleeve. We completely removed everything having to do with rudder installation and rebuilt, including the packing gland assembly. Hope you do not have to do that but you may want to check the bulkhead for rot. We discovered that water accumulated under the floor in the aft lazarette and migrated into the wood between the thin fiberglass veneers on the bulkhead and destroyed the wood above the top bearing mounting area that made the bulkhead very weak. We removed the floor in the lazarette and replaced the bulkhead and floor. JR

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Rudder Installation Hylas 46
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2021, 04:50:05 AM »
We had a new rudder installed in April 2021 in Deltaville USA. After crossing the Atlantic from USA to Europe and extensive trips in Europe (>8000nm) we experienced a rapid degradation of the rudder function.
1) rudder was very stiff and difficult to turn even with 2 hands on the wheel
2) increase water ingress, bilge pump was running every 3-4 minutes, which translates to 200 to 250 gallons of water in 24h. It came from the stuffing box and above the top bearing
3) cracked bulkhead in the aft lazarette about 10cm above the backing plate of the rudder mounting bracket
We hauled Mersoleil in Madeira to inspect the rudder. When we unscrewed the top nut two things happened
1) rudder was not stiff anymore
2) bulhead flexed back into place.

We investigated the installation and found the insert of the rudder bearing has come up (5-6mm). It was installed upside down, so that the 2 set screws were not accessible. Also on the top screw one of the set screws were missing. We installed the rudder as we think is the correct installation and also tightened the stuffing box.
Can anyone confirm that this is the correct installation.
We did some sea trials and experience this is the current status
1) rudder turns well, not stiff;
2) some water comes in about 6 pump cycles in 12hours when sailing, no water comes when on anchor.
3) some flexing of the mounting bracket when sailing in rough conditions

Since we are still new to the boat (8month) we do not have any data on what is normal. So any comment 2) or 3) would be very helpfull. Please see also attached pics.

 

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