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Hylas Discussion / Re: Any recommendations for a boom brake or preventer on a Hylas 54?
« Last post by Aria56 on January 19, 2023, 07:33:31 PM »
We use a preventer line that runs through the boom to the companionway winch and rope clutch. On the end of the boom it is fitted with a snapshackle.  We have two lines with spliced loop in each end that run from forward cleat, outside of all the stanchions, to midships stanchion where they are held in place by a soft shackle, one starboard, one port. To rig you pull out the preventer shackle to the midships loop, snap it in, winch the line tight and done. You only have to step out of the companion a little ways.
My experience with boom brakes on smaller boats is that they are hard to set up properly for the given conditions.  We just bring the boom back to midships and then Jybe.
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Would love to see some pictures of that set-up.
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Hylas Discussion / Re: Rebedding window frames on a 44
« Last post by tessahartmut on January 19, 2023, 10:15:37 AM »
Hylas 46 2010 #69: our manship window started leaking. 
Attached is a photo of the window leaking. Water comes in at 4 places

- between the glass and the stainless steel frame (black arrow)

- above stainless steel frame and the outer stainless steel frame (bule arrow)

Leaking happens in both lower corners (forward and aft)

I sealed it from the inside as temporary fix. Almost not leaking anymore. I have contacted manship and they are very responsive and offered to repair the window at no costs to me. Apparently they are familiar with this issue.
Does anyone know if the window can be removed from the inside or is outside access required?
We are fulltime cruiser and do not plan for a haul out anytime soon.
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Hylas Discussion / Re: High amp draw and slow speed up for Antal 66 winch
« Last post by tessahartmut on January 19, 2023, 10:05:54 AM »
Hylas 46 2010 #69: we are starting to see the same problem with our port primary winch. I talked to a Antal representative and he said it could be bad contacts or the brushes. Does anyone know how to get access to the motor and the relay box. I am guessing you have to remove the ceiling panel in the shower. We will I find the relay box and how difficult will it be to remove the motor, replace brushes and re-install? Any help is appreciated.
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Hylas Discussion / Re: High amp draw and slow speed up for Antal 66 winch
« Last post by tessahartmut on January 19, 2023, 10:05:11 AM »
Hylas 46 2010 #69: we are starting to see the same problem with our port primary winch. I talked to a Antal representative and he said it could be bad contacts or the brushes. Does anyone know how to get access to the motor and the relay box. I am guessing you have to remove the ceiling panel in the shower. We will I find the relay box and how difficult will it be to remove the motor, replace brushes and re-install? Any help is appreciated.
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Experienced Hylas Yachts / Re: Hylas 46 for sale
« Last post by SeaGlub on January 19, 2023, 08:30:47 AM »
I have 46#22 and am considering selling later this year or next. I have a few potential buyers expressing interest now, maybe I can direct them your way?

Please send listing info to seaglub@gmail.com

Best of luck
Chris
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Hylas Discussion / Re: Any recommendations for a boom brake or preventer on a Hylas 54?
« Last post by elecco on January 19, 2023, 04:30:29 AM »
I just had all of the running rigging redone / modernized.  I used a really good rigger in the SF Bay Area, Glenn Hansen.  I had him rig a preventer system which worked wonderful on a 2,000 + mile downwind passage to Mexico.  Here is how the preventer is rigged.

On the Boom:  There are two dyneema lines (no cover) spliced at the end of the boom.  One line each on the Port and STBD side.  The lines run nearly the length of the boom and terminate with a shackle that clips to a line near the goosneck.  This is for storage when not using the preventer.

One the Deck:  There is a non-dyneema line on both port and starboard that is shackled at mid ships and then runs forward and around the first bow cleat then back to the stern cleat where it is coiled and stored on the rails. 

To use the preventer, we un-clip the line of the boom, attach it to the preventer line at mid ships.  Then we uncoil the line at the stern cleat and run it to the secondary winch.  Works great, super safe.
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We use a dyneema cored line that runs from forward cleat to aft end of boom then inside the boom to gooseneck down to mast base then via blocks back into the cockpit jammer and winch.  But on listening to the sage advice from John Kretschmer I realize that Dyneema cored line is not optimal and it should be a stretchy line that will not prevent a gybe, but just slow it down. 

We store the preventer by putting the distal loop end on a cleat on the forward end of the boom so it is easy to deploy even if the aft end of the boom is already over the rail.  You could make intentional gibing easier by doubling up this system so you could have one rigged to port and one to starboard.
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Hylas Discussion / Re: Any recommendations for a boom brake or preventer on a Hylas 54?
« Last post by tday01 on January 16, 2023, 03:09:23 PM »
After my googling am now looking at the Dutchman BB750 system.
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Hylas Discussion / Re: Any recommendations for a boom brake or preventer on a Hylas 54?
« Last post by joel on January 16, 2023, 01:09:07 AM »
FWIW I was told my several riggers not to use a mid boom device.  I run a line from the end of the boom to a snatch block forward of the shrouds then back to a mid ship cleat.  A PIA to gybe, but it works.
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