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Hylas Discussion / Re: How do I remove my microwave without cutting wood?
« Last post by Hobiehobie on May 28, 2023, 01:35:17 PM »
Yours is same location than ours (H54 #50 2007) but seems to be fitted in a different way, and a bit smaller maybe?.  But our wood surround is held in place with strong 3M velcro.  Once the wood surround is off the microwave (at least ours) is held in place with a series of wood parts tightly fitted around the base and sides of the microwave.  But if your wood facing is also held on with velcro, I would try giving it a "bigger pull", see what happens.   If you need to get a new MW you will probably need new wood facing anyway, so go for it!!

Also take a look in the adjacent cabinets either side as there may be screws holding on either the face plate of the microwave itself.

Good luck. report back!

SV Genevieve
Hylas Discussion / Re: How to replace Antal switches?
« Last post by Hobiehobie on May 28, 2023, 01:25:17 PM »
Yes.  I have done this several times.  It's important to keep an eye on these because as the rubber deteriorates there is a possibility that you will push the button and it will not stop the winch on releasing.

You need to get to the back of the panel.  On the port side that is in the shower and on the starboard side in the galley.  Just unscrew the battens holding the roof panel.  The Antal button stainless surrounds are held on with through bolts and to undo them from the cockpit someone needs to hold the nut behind the panel.  Once the four nuts are off you can pry the stainless button surrounds off and the rubber cover will peel away from the rest of the rubber switch base.  The good news is that you only need to replace the cover of the switch, not the whole switch.  Although if there are signs of any degradation in the switch itself you should do so...just means re-splicing the wires.

I use fresh Butyl tape to seal the stainless cover around its edges.  When the bolts are tightened it will squish out and you can scrape the excess off.

It's a relatively easy fix as boat fixes go!  Happy to give you more details.  call at +1 646 339 7103

SV Genevieve

Hylas Discussion / How to replace Antal switches?
« Last post by tday01 on May 28, 2023, 12:40:52 PM »
The rubberized switches for my Antal electric winches have all perished and are in need of replacement (see attachment). I pulled the plate, but the stainless steel cover appears to be very firmly attached to the switch and plate. I suspect it was filled with 5200 or similar when installed. It is too tightly attached to get a razor blade in between. Any ideas?
Hylas Discussion / How do I remove my microwave without cutting wood?
« Last post by tday01 on May 28, 2023, 12:12:17 PM »
The microwave on my 2005 Hylas 54 has gone on the fritz and it's not obvious how to remove it without cutting wood (see attached). Any ideas?

S/V Alcyone
Hylas Discussion / Re: Ballast in Displacement?
« Last post by joel on May 27, 2023, 04:54:59 PM »
Travel lift scales are not terribly accurate.  Our 49 weighed 38,000 on the travel lift without the mast, same on a truck scale with the mast. Published weight is 32,000. Water tanks were empty, fuel was about 75 gallons. 
Hylas Discussion / Re: Ballast in Displacement?
« Last post by Hobiehobie on May 25, 2023, 08:54:39 PM »
I will try again.  My messages keep getting cut off. 
I doubt that is correct.  The listed displacement for a H54 is 48,000lbs or 24 tons of which 20,000 is ballast.

At my last splash the travel lift guy reported a weight of 62,000lbs. She was loaded with the normal stuff; dinghy, sails, clothes, tools, spares etc,  but not packed full, empty water tanks but 230 gallons of diesel diesel. 

I think the video probably showed a travel lift with a 30 T limit, and that H54 probably was just over that if she was loaded for cruising.

Personally we always try to use a 50T lift minimum, preferably a 100T+ lift.   But sometimes its just not available.
Hylas Discussion / Re: Ballast in Displacement?
« Last post by Hobiehobie on May 25, 2023, 11:33:56 AM »
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Hylas Discussion / Ballast in Displacement?
« Last post by sjd on May 25, 2023, 11:19:04 AM »
I was recently watching a Hylas 54 get hauled when the lift operator suddenly stopped (keel was still in the water) and said that the boat weighed 10K lbs more than the advertised 50K displacement weight. He claimed that with Hylas's (and Tayana's and Moody's), the ballast amount is not included in the displacement figure.  This seems odd to me as I always thought ballast was included in the displacement figure. Can anyone elaborate? BTW, owner said boat had empty tanks.
Hylas Discussion / Re: Helm cable grease?
« Last post by Nirvana on May 24, 2023, 12:26:55 PM »
Of course!  Superlube!  I just bought a big tub of it for my telescope bearing upgrade. 
Yes, saw your post on FB.  Chain was inspected two years ago while replacing helm breaks, also a good thing to keep eyes on, they do wear though not as risky as fractured link.

It never ends does it?

P.S.  contrary to Edson standard recommendations to completely pull the cables (I had a conversation with them at the Newport Boat show in 2017 about this) the cables CAN be inspected without pulling them.  It takes two people, patients, a headset for communication and a bit of contortion but moving the helm slowly in each direction and observing as well as running a microfiber cloth along it at key points during the move will reveal any minor snags in the strands.  Key points being the full travel at any turns as well as the ends at both the quadrant and the pedestal.

On my boat there is only one location I could not get to the complete travel and that is where it passes under the aft water tank to the quadrant.  Being a straight run and never rotated or turned it is a very low risk section.  However it is not a difficult task disconnecting the quadrant end and pulling that through to do the inspection.

I am fairly confident Everywhere else the cable can be inspected through its full travel unless it is sections completely sheathed which are are all straight runs as well and well protected and, being properly greased, at very low risk. Any portion that does enter the sheaths can be inspected as it enters or exits as the helm is slowly turned.

We spent a couple hours on this task after the convention and actually fount the quadrant clamp had slipped at some past life so adjusted that but the cables were in very good condition.  Took the opportunity to grease all turn blocks and the quadrant as well.
Hylas Discussion / Re: Helm cable grease?
« Last post by Tunarolf on May 24, 2023, 06:12:40 AM »
I just pulled my cables, and found them frayed, so yes check your cables!

More worrying I found the master link in the chain from cracked!!!!! Check you chains!!! I will post a picture in the Hylas Face Book group.

Just ordered 2 new master links from Edson and have had 2 new cables made up.

Here is the recommendation from Edson re grease.

The Grease for the steering conduit is Super Lube (Teflon Grease)
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