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SeaGlub

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Re: Topping Lift?
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2018, 03:58:53 AM »
I can't advocate for removing the boom Vang. How else do you pull the boom down when sailing downwind to get the proper shape in the mainsail?
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Re: Topping Lift?
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2018, 04:05:46 AM »
Hello,

Great points. We have a Stevens 47 (predecessor to the Hylas 47 and 49) with a Furlboom in boom furler.  In six years zigzagging about the Pacific fulltime here are our observations on the topping list.

- we used to use to use the topping lift to establish the correct boom angle before furling.  We then changed the gas cylinder in our Selden rigid boom to the most powerful they offer. Now the rigid vang pushes the boom up as far as the sheet or vang line will allow.
 - we normally move the topping list to the base of the mast for most passages but at anchor (where we spend most of our time) the topping lift is reattached to the boom along with a Handy Billy down to the toerail to stop the boom bouncing in the rolls. The topping lift also supports people walking on the boom for maintenance or just getting up a high concrete dock wall.
-  nice to use the topping lift for a back up halyard when getting hoisted aloft on the main halyard.
- we have never had a problem with our main halyard but it never hurts to have easy backups offshore.

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Max
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Re: Topping Lift?
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2018, 10:44:50 PM »
Jim, it sounds like we essentially have the same set-up.  Not sure I ever thought about the use of the topping lift to position the boom for furling the main, but then again, this is my first furling main and I'm definitely still in learning mode to the nuances! 

Although there is probably plenty of redundancy with the rigid vang, I went ahead and ordered another topping lift anyways.  It may see good use as a spare halyard one day and since it doesn't interfere with the mains'l, I figured what the heck?!


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Re: Topping Lift?
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2018, 01:22:47 AM »
Dan, we have a spring loaded semi-rigid vang, one that supports the boom but can be pulled down by the vang control or mainsheet. We also have in-mast furling which requires fairly precise location of the boom when furling. Locking the boom in position with the mainsheet and topping lift is convenient when furling. That, an extra halyard, and support if we need to use the boom to lift from the water is why we keep it.
Jim
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Re: Topping Lift?
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2018, 10:04:34 PM »
Thanks for the feedback Danny.  It sounds like yours actually has a purpose.  My topping lift is holding up the boom only which is also held up by the vigid vang.


Dan
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Re: Topping Lift?
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2018, 09:38:45 PM »
Hello Dan, In our 1996 46' Hylas, the topping lift is holding the end of the stack pack , I can't  remove it, and We have a rigid boom also.
Hope it helps.
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Re: Topping Lift?
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2018, 06:21:10 PM »
Dan,

I could not find anyone who would build it for a reasonable price, so I built it myself.   I used the existing frame. Took about 15 hours, $150 in materials and created lots of dust in my garage, but it turned out great.  If you want more info, contact me at sailatlantis   @ gmail . com 

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Re: Topping Lift?
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2018, 06:16:11 PM »
Thanks for the feedback Joel.  I think you are right, in that it seems somewhat redundant to me once you have a rigid boom vang.  Beyond a spare halyard, I can't find a good reason for keeping it.


So you went with a rigid bimini for your H44?  Nice.  Mind if I ask where you had that done?



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Re: Topping Lift?
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2018, 04:25:27 PM »
Dan,

I removed the topping lift off my 44.  Then I installed a hard bimini.  Now I need to use the halyard to raise the boom when I put on the sail cover, but my halyard no longer slaps.  It is certainly not essential.

Joel
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Topping Lift?
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2018, 10:50:33 AM »
My 1997 H46 is in need of a complete running rigging overhaul which I am doing in a slow and deliberate manner.  One line I'm not 100% sure about is the topping lift.  It definitely needs replacement, however, with a rigid boom vang, I'm not sure of the usefulness of a topping lift?  Anyone have any thoughts on this before I replace that line unnecessarily? 
The only real purpose I can see for that line would be as an emergency replacement halyard.


As always, thanks in advance for your time and thoughts!


Dan

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