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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2014, 06:36:53 PM »
Forgot to attach the "desert crossing" photo to previous mail. Here it is. 

On Sep 23, 2014, at 11:33 AM, Kaian <> wrote:

We collected  proposals from various companies to get our Hylas 46 from Fort Lauderdale to Marina del Rey in California.   Proposals ranged from  $12,500 to $27,000.  One thing that helped in our case is that we were flexible in terms of a time schedule, i.e. willing to stall things several  months if necessary. You learn that in the trucking industry, delays are inevitable since unpredictable circumstances including road work, weather, changing state regulations, unannounced boatyard delays, etc. influence time schedules. In other words,  there is infinitely more involved to  shipping a yacht cross country  than sitting behind the wheel of a big rig. Oh! And don't forget that in some states if the hull of your boat exhibits too much live or dead sea life of the wrong variety - the trucker can be fined big time or even halted. 

That said, Jim Wise of Wiseway Trucking is resolutely "a man of his word" and will spare no effort to uphold his integrity and his firm's reputation. Were we to go through the experience again, we would go straight Jim.  His firm got our Hylas from Florida to California  for $16,000 - exactly as quoted - and the road trip stayed on schedule  - even though in Texas the driver surprisingly  was not permitted to use certain stretches  of highway (  already   approved for him by regulating Highway/Transit officials ) because of  unannounced delays and complications due to major road construction projects. At one point, he was directed to go south and drive - yacht in tow of course - on a dirt road  along  the Texas/Mexican boarder ( photo attached was taken through the big rig's windshield).  Pacific c rossing? Atlantic crossing? We call Kaian the only Hylas to have made a desert crossing.  Had a maritime transport   firm with less acumen and  experience been required to meet this challenge, Kaian might still be out there on the desert somewhere - sails flogging. Wiseway handled all complications ( and there will always be complications shipping a large yacht across the country) with the utmost professionalism and effectiveness. Talking with Jim about his experiences is worth  at least a part of the admission tag. As many reviews say " Jim Is The Man ". 

As for rigging and de rigging, we were lucky to have Brad Storm of Storm Rigging in Fort Lauderdale at both ends.

For re rigging in California,   Dave Powers joined him. Brad was responsible for the original rigging on many Hylas on the water today and if anyone ever experiences serious rigging issues - wherever they are - Brad is the

person to contact as it may turn out Brad was the one who originally rigged your boat when it " came off the rack". 

In California, try to work with Dave Powers who also has considerable, original  experience with Hylas. Never overlook that said rigging processes involve substantial,   intricate and  and sophisticated electrical work that, if not tackled accurately, will cause   many headaches and much anxiety once your boat is back on the water. 

All of Brad's work totaled about $5000 plus a small fee for  partial payment of his airfare, he had another Hylas to re rig in Washigton after completing ours in California This total includes BOTH rigging and de rigging plus Dave's fees)  Interestingly, in this process Brad and Dave found and corrected a  problem in the Selden   mast  furling system that no one ( including the surveyor and various maintenance  personnel ) had ever noticed. As a result, the system works vastly smoother and more effectively - and we weren't charged for a repair!)

All that said, we could have paid a little less and we could have paid a lot more had we gone with other firms.

What may appear to be inexpensive, as others have pointed out, can turn out to be far more expensive than quoted. What appears to be expensive may  well not turn out to be the best - or even acceptable.  In any event Wolverine, Mccannengineer, etc., hope all the rhetoric is helpful.


 On Sep 22, 2014, at 08:10 PM, Wolverine63 <> wrote:
How much did it cost to ship from east to west coast or in my case possibly west to east coast, and re-rig the Hylas 46? Thanks

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 On Sep 23, 2014, at 08:47 AM, Mccannengineer <> wrote:
Brad storm and David know and consistently work

Mccannengineer on September 23, 2014, 03:05:36 PM
When RYA h 49 moved from ft lauderale to portland oregon

Disassemble and move onto truck
Transport used n.c. Firm - NEVER AGAIN - started @ 15 ended wit 25 k - ouch
Reassembly - 6 k + 7 for discovered required repairs
Turns out we found two major issues that were not found in survey!
Glad we did it
Don't use bc trucking firms

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Wolverine63 on September 23, 2014, 03:11:51 AM
How much did it cost to ship from east to west coast or in my case possibly west to east coast, and re-rig the Hylas 46? Thanks
Kaian on September 23, 2014, 02:47:06 AM

I believe "Beleza" is listed/associated with  David Powers whose office is near  Windward Yacht Center in Marina del Rey, California.  We had our   Hylas 46  trucked from the East to West coast.  Though David Powers  was not involved in the original  sale, he was involved in the re rigging process when our Hylas arrived on the West Coast and he was aligned with Fort Lauderdale super rigger Brad Storm.  David really does know Hylas very, very well.

 On the East Coast,  Scott Dunscombe at David Walters Yachts in Fort Lauderdale earns the word "exceptional". 
Not intending to generate unsolicited advice, it is worth saying   if you make a purchase it is essential   the lister ( if there is one) knows these vessels inside and out and makes certain  a complete and  stringent survey is performed ( if for no reason other than to avoid surprises the first time you head into heavy weather.)  Knowing Hylas vessels  in said manner is a tough benchmark to meet since  within each fleet  differences ( sometimes major)   occur from vessel - to - vessel.  As  all know,  Hylas are not Cookie Cutter products,  that's one reason  we love to be aboard them.  

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