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Hylas Discussion / Re: Ground Wire - Rudder Skeg / Shoe Hylas 46
« Last post by KSabatini on May 17, 2018, 01:24:37 PM »
Iíve attached photos of our blueprints for the strut and rudder.

Iím intrigued by this problem and will take a look on Nirvana.  Her bilge remains dry all season unless I get to cleaning or working on something that purposely induces water into the area so iím curious at what point and why this may become an issue.
Hylas Discussion / Re: Cockpit cleaning
« Last post by jweads on May 16, 2018, 04:16:16 PM »
The two cockpit drains are large and are designed to drain the cockpit oh seawater from a wave.  The drains drop straight down and then turns almost horizontal to large check valves and then vertical through seacocks.  These are in the back corners of the engine compartment in front of the aft bulkhead. When we first got our 49, I was washing the cockpit while on the hard and noticed the drains slow.  The check valves were clogged with dried mud.  It took a hose from the bottom and plunger from the top to loosen dirt and free drain.  If you are in the water, try tapping on the check valves.  I could not open the check plug to access the inside.  In the water you should be able to run water from a hose directly down the drain and not overflow back on the floor.  We made it a point not to flush anything but liquid down the drains.
Hope this helps.

J W Eads
Over Budget
Hylas Discussion / Cockpit cleaning
« Last post by smotley on May 15, 2018, 09:58:50 PM »
We have a Hylas 49-10 and my wife has asked me to ask the group how they clean their cockpits.   She did ours the other day and was very frustrated with how the water drainage would not drain quick enough and raised pedestal footing made brushing the dirty water aft towards the drain a pain as well.

Looking forward to hearing your experiences

94' Hylas 49 #10
Hylas Discussion / Re: Hylas 49 fueling
« Last post by jweads on May 14, 2018, 10:43:48 PM »
The hull # -16 on our H49 puts it in the same vintage as your 49.  We have a single deck fill on the starboard side.  This 1 1/2" pipe drops down in front of the freezer and turns forward and runs on the top edge of the fuel tanks.  This pipe feeds both tanks through 1 1/2" fittings. You have no control which tank you are filling and once you get to the top 2", they are acting as one.  We lived aboard for 8 years, going from Nova Scotia to the Caribbean and I filled using the deck fill.  I did fuel below at first, but found that cumbersome.  I do not have gauges.  It helps if you have a pretty good idea how much it will take to fill your tanks.  I do this one of two ways.  Starting with full tanks we use 1 1/2 gals per hour at 2500 rpm.  If your hour meter says 20 hours - 30 gals.  Tell the dock hand to let you know when you have taken on 25 gals. and then listen carefully at the deck fill as you are fueling.  You will hear as the diesel starts up the fill pipe and stop the flow.  You or your mate cannot be chatting with the dock hand as this is done.  Practice this with the water fill an you will get used to the sound of the liquid coming up the pipe.  The tank vents are led to the stern lazarete and turn down into the top of the fiberglass tube that is connected to the stainless flange for the engine room blower near the top of the sugar scoop.  If you are concerned  about pushing fuel out the vents, put some paper towels in the tube to catch any small amount of fuel  that might exit here.  This only happened to us once.   The second way of knowing how much fuel you have used is by measuring the depth in each tank.  The stainless dip sticks ae impossible to read.  I pull the one floor board that exposed both dip sticks.  I use two layers of paper towels laid on the floor and held in place by blue masking tape.  Pull stick up, wipe dry and dip again an bring up an lay on paper towels.  Measure from bottom of top cap to wet spot on towel.  I carefully measured my tanks and created a chart to show depth versus gals. used.  I won't go into the chart since everyone probably stopped reading half way back.   
J W Eads
"Over Budget "
Hylas Discussion / Re: Lots of Hylas' for indication of something?
« Last post by joel on May 14, 2018, 01:42:52 PM »
For most of us, there is a narrow window for owning and operating a large sailboat.  I suspect most if us are empty nesters and under 70.  If you bought a new boat 15-20 years ago, you are probably aging out.
Many people looking for a boat buy based on price and square footage, not seaworthiness, so they will never appreciate how special Hylas' are.  There are over 2200 Bene's for sale.  It's a buyer's market.
Hylas Discussion / Re: Ground Wire - Rudder Skeg / Shoe Hylas 46
« Last post by Ripple on May 14, 2018, 12:20:11 AM »
The drawing is on the boat on Trinidad and I am in Ohio but I provided my rendition here, looking from the back or front. His drawing showed a nice fairing between the skeg and hull but in reality it is a sharp angle. Don't know how long it will take to fix. The skeg feels solid with the rudder in place but moves in relation to the hull without the rudder installed. JR
Hylas Discussion / Re: Ground Wire - Rudder Skeg / Shoe Hylas 46
« Last post by Ambition on May 13, 2018, 03:30:07 PM »
Thanks so much for the very detailed explanation of what is going on. On Ambition, the water volume that leaks in is certainly far from what you experienced - our dribble never makes it to the bilge before evaporating. That being said, it clearly is an issue if it gets to what you experienced. I will keep my eye on it to see if it gets worse. We are hauling the boat out in a few days so I will check the keg and shoe for any movement. The rudder was already replaced 4 years ago and I am wondering if there was a little sloppiness in the reinstall that has now cause my small leak. I would greatly appreciate a copy of the drawing that Queen Long provided to you - Lastly I suspect from your description, the repair was how many hours of work?
Thank you so much for the information, much appreciated.
Merrill and Maryse
S/V Ambition H46 #40
Hylas Discussion / Lots of Hylas' for indication of something?
« Last post by nesscapade on May 13, 2018, 02:41:54 PM »
I've noticed recently that there are a slew (30+) Hylas' for sale - especially in the 54/56 (10) class. Search Yachtworld. The last time I saw this many for sale was 2010-2012 when the economy was in terrible shape and no one was buying boats of this class. Right now the economy is in great shape. So I'm wondering, is it...

The brand? - The next generation of the family is now running Hylas. They are releasing a power boat (from Aus) and a new 57 aft-cockpit sailboat. When I visited them at the Newport boat show you could barely get their attention. They were very young, obviously not sailors and spent most of their time staring at their phones - they seemed way to shy to be working a boat show.

Monohulls? - "Leaners" as my cat friends call us are being taken over by people who love cats. My wife likes cats too but Flying Lady our H54#28 w/blue hull and teak rail, to us, is just beautiful, while large floating pieces of white plastic are less so.

Generational? - I'm reading that there's not a net growth of people who are into sailing. Older sailors go power, or stop sailing as it can be quite active lifestyle, younger sailors are chartering, getting cats or not wanting to put money and time into a large sailboat.

Coincidence - Is it' just by "chance" that there are ten 54s and 35 world-wide Hylas for sale?

We absolutely love Flying Lady. We just had a refit in Charlevoix, MI. Tomorrow at 5am I drive up there to begin a summer cruise throughout the northern Great Lakes. So we'll be enjoying her as long as we're able to.

Yan and Judy
Hylas Discussion / Re: Ground Wire - Rudder Skeg / Shoe Hylas 46
« Last post by Ripple on May 13, 2018, 01:42:46 PM »
Hi Merrill and Maryse,

After 3 years of searching, I found the annoying leak under the blower hose under the steering pulley box. I recently wrote to Qreen Long about this problem and they sent a drawing. The Skeg is molded to the hull. A bronze plate is located in the hollow space in the skeg and the shoe bolts go through it. A ground wire is attached to the plate. The hollow space is filled with loose material and covered with a layer of fiberglass to keep the loose material in place. Water leaking around the shoe bolts migrates through the loose material and penetrates the hull around the ground wire and/or the thin layer of glass that was not designed to stop water but merely retain the loose fill. When our rudder was removed two years ago, they mentioned that the skeg felt loose. I should have paid more attention at that time. So, for peace of mind, the rudder is coming out, along with the quadrant pulley box. The skeg will be faired to the hull with glass on the outside. The interior of the skeg will be exposed thru the hull and glass reinforced from the inside. The ground wire will de replaced with a rod. The interior area will be glassed over significantly. Finally, the shoe will be replaced with plenty of sealant. Maybe next season we won't have to listen to the bilge pump every 10 minutes. JR
Hylas Discussion / Re: AmplePower's SAR3 Smart Regulator Dip Switch Settings
« Last post by Iolea on May 13, 2018, 05:26:45 AM »
Thanks for the suggestions, i ended up replacing it with a Belmar 614 regulator instead as that model is programmable
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